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    Parašė Gator Rodyti pranešimą

    O jis anksčiau sakydavo, kad reikia okupuotos Ukrainos?
    Taip, sakydavo.

    Before Moscow sent in troops, he had sought close ties with Russia's President Vladimir Putin. And last week, he said Europe had "shot itself in the lungs" by imposing sanctions against Moscow over the military operation.

    "We're sitting in a car with four flat tyres", he said on Saturday, of efforts to stem the bloodshed.

    "A new strategy is needed, which should focus on peace negotiations instead of trying to win the war," he said.

    Orban said "only Russian-US talks can put an end to the conflict because Russia wants security guarantees" only Washington can give.

    The EU, he added, "should not side with the Ukrainians, but position itself" between both sides.

    The sanctions "will not change the situation" and "the Ukrainians will not come out victorious", he said.

    He said: "The more the West sends powerful weapons, the more the war drags on".

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      Matau, kad sako, kad Ukraina nelaimės bet kokiu atveju, todėl neverta pratęsti karo. Bet nematau, kad sakytų, kad tas pralaimėjimas reikalingas. Labiau skamba kaip susitaikymas su neišvengiamu (jo požiūriu) dalyku.

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        Parašė Gator Rodyti pranešimą
        Matau, kad sako, kad Ukraina nelaimės bet kokiu atveju, todėl neverta pratęsti karo. Bet nematau, kad sakytų, kad tas pralaimėjimas reikalingas. Labiau skamba kaip susitaikymas su neišvengiamu (jo požiūriu) dalyku.
        Sako neremkit Ukrainos, atiduokit jos dalį rusams, kad baigtųsi karas. Kitaip tariant, kalbėjo atvirkščiai negu dabar.

        Man labai įdomu stebėt tavo politinių pažiūrų žmonių kognityvinų disonansą, kai (turbūt?) palaikai Ukrainą, bet tavo populistinis konservatorius dievukas yra visiškas vatnikas.

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          Parašė AšNeRobotas Rodyti pranešimą

          Sako neremkit Ukrainos, atiduokit jos dalį rusams, kad baigtųsi karas. Kitaip tariant, kalbėjo atvirkščiai negu dabar.

          Man labai įdomu stebėt tavo politinių pažiūrų žmonių kognityvinų disonansą, kai (turbūt?) palaikai Ukrainą, bet tavo populistinis konservatorius dievukas yra visiškas vatnikas.
          Bet tiesiogiai nesiūlė atiduoti konkrečiai jokios Ukrainos dalies, net ir Donbaso ar Krymo, jau nekalbant apie visą Ukrainą. Šiaip net ir po sankcijomis nors ir šakodamasis pasirašė. Ir paramą Ukrainai duoda (ekonominę).

          https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ee-2022-11-24/
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            Ir Gundiajevą išsireikalavo išbraukti iš sankcijų (matyt pravoslavas?).

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              WWI vakarų frontas ir Bachmutas 2022...

              Panašumai ne tik vizualiniai, bet ir skerdynių prasme:
              https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/27/w...smid=url-share

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              Paskutinis taisė Lettered; 2022.11.28, 01:34.
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                Exclusive: U.S. weighs sending 100-mile strike weapon to Ukraine https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...es-2022-11-28/
                WASHINGTON, Nov 28 (Reuters) - The Pentagon is considering a Boeing proposal to supply Ukraine with cheap, small precision bombs fitted onto abundantly available rockets, allowing Kyiv to strike far behind Russian lines as the West struggles to meet demand for more arms.
                U.S. and allied military inventories are shrinking, and Ukraine faces an increasing need for more sophisticated weapons as the war drags on. Boeing's proposed system, dubbed Ground-Launched Small Diameter Bomb (GLSDB), is one of about a half-dozen plans for getting new munitions into production for Ukraine and America's Eastern European allies, industry sources said.
                GLSDB could be delivered as early as spring 2023, according to a document reviewed by Reuters and three people familiar with the plan. It combines the GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb (SDB) with the M26 rocket motor, both of which are common in U.S. inventories.
                Doug Bush, the U.S. Army's chief weapons buyer, told reporters at the Pentagon last week the Army was also looking at accelerating production of 155 millimeter artillery shells - currently only manufactured at government facilities - by allowing defense contractors to build them.
                The invasion of Ukraine drove up demand for American-made weapons and ammunition, while U.S. allies in Eastern Europe are "putting a lot of orders," in for a range of arms as they supply Ukraine, Bush added.
                "It's about getting quantity at a cheap cost," said Tom Karako, a weapons and security expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. He said falling U.S. inventories help explain the rush to get more arms now, saying stockpiles are "getting low relative to the levels we like to keep on hand and certainly to the levels we're going to need to deter a China conflict."
                Karako also noted that the U.S. exit from Afghanistan left lots of air-dropped bombs available. They cannot be easily used with Ukrainian aircraft, but "in today's context we should be looking for innovative ways to convert them to standoff capability."
                Although a handful of GLSDB units have already been made, there are many logistical obstacles to formal procurement. The Boeing plan requires a price discovery waiver, exempting the contractor from an in-depth review that ensures the Pentagon is getting the best deal possible. Any arrangement would also require at least six suppliers to expedite shipments of their parts and services to produce the weapon quickly.
                A Boeing spokesperson declined to comment. Pentagon spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Tim Gorman declined to comment on providing any "specific capability" to Ukraine, but said the U.S. and its allies "identify and consider the most appropriate systems" that would help Kyiv.
                Although the United States has rebuffed requests for the 185-mile (297km) range ATACMS missile, the GLSDB's 94-mile (150km) range would allow Ukraine to hit valuable military targets that have been out of reach and help it continue pressing its counterattacks by disrupting Russian rear areas.
                GLSDB is made jointly by SAAB AB (SAABb.ST) and Boeing Co (BA.N) and has been in development since 2019, well before the invasion, which Russia calls a "special operation". In October, SAAB chief executive Micael Johansson said of the GLSDB: "We are imminently shortly expecting contracts on that."
                According to the document - a Boeing proposal to U.S. European Command (EUCOM), which is overseeing weapons headed to Ukraine - the main components of the GLSDB would come from current U.S. stores.
                The M26 rocket motor is relatively abundant, and the GBU-39 costs about $40,000 each, making the completed GLSDB inexpensive and its main components readily available. Although arms manufacturers are struggling with demand, those factors make it possible to yield weapons by early 2023, albeit at a low rate of production.
                GLSDB is GPS-guided, can defeat some electronic jamming, is usable in all weather conditions, and can be used against armored vehicles, according to SAAB's website. The GBU-39 - which would function as the GLSDB's warhead - has small, folding wings that allow it to glide more than 100km if dropped from an aircraft and targets as small as 3 feet in diameter.
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                  Kacapijai reikalinga strateginių įmonių nacionalizacija.
                  Paskutinis taisė luknas; 2022.11.28, 14:20.

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                    Daug ką pasakantis faktas - straipsnio autorius yra 83-metis buvęs aukšto rango SSRS politrukas, RSFSR prezidiumo pirmininko pavaduotojas.

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                      Lietuvių ukrainiečiams perduotos 105mm kalibro haubicos M101 veiksme.

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                        Įdomūs interviu su lietuviais kariaujančiais Ukrainoje.



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                          Ar kas girdėjote ką nors apie Afriką?
                          Vakar „Arestovyčiaus“ forumiuke dieną patikimas dalyvis parašė, kad „Afrikoje tuoj gali būti kažkas įdomaus“.
                          Vidurnaktį pasirodė pranešimai, kad į CAR atskiro aeroplanas „iš užsienio“ ir pabombino Vagnerius.
                          Forumiukas (karinis), kuris paprastai greitai atmeta kliedesius, kol kas pasvarstė, kas čia galėjo būti, įvertino, kad tai padaryti buvo lengva, reikėjo tik noro. Bet laukia daugiau info.

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                            Parašė OpenStreetMap Rodyti pranešimą
                            Vidurnaktį pasirodė pranešimai, kad į CAR atskiro aeroplanas „iš užsienio“ ir pabombino Vagnerius.
                            Jei taip, tai geros naujienos. Bent kažkiek atitrauks vagnerių dėmesį nuo Ukrainos.
                            Bet dar įdomiau, nuo ko "gavo".

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                              Ukrainoje atnaujinta 152 mm artilerijos sviedinių gamyba.

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                                Aš negirdėjau anksčiau apie pirmus 3, bet FR perdavė jau 4'ą savo vikšrinį M270 12'os raketų HIMARS analogą LRU https://charter97.org/ru/news/2022/11/29/526195/
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                                  Ukraine Should Be Free to Hit Military Targets in Russia, Latvia Says https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ia-latvia-says
                                  • Latvian minister speaks in interview at NATO Bucharest meeting
                                  • US has held back on sending weapons that could reach Russia
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                                    Ukraine Situation Report: Russian Artillery Advantage Diminishing For a variety of reasons, the ratio of Russian artillery volleys compared to Ukrainian ones is decreasing, a Pentagon official said. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ge-diminishing
                                    While the U.S. and allies have provided some 350 howitzers - including 142 155mm and 36 105mm howitzers from the U.S. alone - Ukraine also employs old Soviet artillery using 152mm and 122mm rounds. And therein lies a conundrum of sorts for Ukraine. All told, the U.S. alone has provided more than one million rounds of howitzer ammunition, including up to 903,000 standard 155mm howitzer rounds as well as 3,000 M982 Excalibur guided rounds, 7,000 Remote Anti-Armor Mine System (RAAMS) projectiles, and 180,000 105mm howitzer shells.
                                    But Ukraine has more 152mm tubes than 155mm tubes, with less ammunition for them, something it is attempting to address with newly launched domestic production of an undisclosed number of 152mm rounds.
                                    Ukroboronprom, the Ukrainian state defense production agency, previously said it established the production of 122mm and 152mm artillery shells, as well as 120mm mines."They noted that these shells have been successfully tested and are manufactured using NATO technology," according to Ukrainian Pravda.
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                                      Nuo Rusijos invazijos pradžios Ukrainoje jau žuvo daugiau kaip 20 000 civilių ir daugiau kaip 100 tūkst. ukrainiečių karių. Tokį vertinimą pateikė Europos Komisijos vadovė Ursula von der Leyen.

                                      Tikim?

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                                        Parašė kelnaites Rodyti pranešimą
                                        Nuo Rusijos invazijos pradžios Ukrainoje jau žuvo daugiau kaip 20 000 civilių ir daugiau kaip 100 tūkst. ukrainiečių karių. Tokį vertinimą pateikė Europos Komisijos vadovė Ursula von der Leyen.

                                        Tikim?
                                        Gal Ursula tiesiog atkartojo Mark Milley žodžius, kuris lakpkričio pradžioje šnekėjo apie tai, kad rusai turi 100 K žuvusių/sužeistų ir kad kažkas panašaus tikriausiai yra ir Ukrainos pusėje.

                                        O ar tikim,tai greičiausiai taip. Jei jau patys ukrainiečiai šneka apie >10 K žuvusių, gal tik labai norėtųsi, kad tas žuvusių/sužeistų santykis Ukrainos pusėje(tuose 100 K) būtų kuo geresnis.
                                        Paskutinis taisė Galys; 2022.11.30, 19:49.

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                                          100k cia suzeista plius zuvusiu itariu.
                                          "I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we're really talking about peace." —Washington, D.C. June 18, 2002


                                          - George W. Bush President of the USA

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