I like new architecture and I don't think that ministry of indurstry is some sort of exemplary piece, however I prefer not to be blinded by the new boxes being build because in the few years, after all the "news" about them being built in the empty lots wear out, they will look just what they are - boxes.
I must remind you what you wrote: "Oh, common, its not so bad. There are worse buildings Gedimino prospekte. Even this Vilniaus Vartai building, if looking from Independence square, seems very similar." So you say that Vilnius gates looks very similar to that ministry building (OK, that's your opinion) and that there are worse buildings in Gedimino avenue than building of ministry (I'm curious then - which one is worse?).
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Wrong impression Edd, and I am sorry that you have made it based on my comments.
Sorry, if my impression is wrong, but I remember discussions in thread about Royal palace. You said that you prefer unrestored old town because it has its charm. You also said that you don't like reconstructions and prefer ruins, because they have charm. You also mentioned that Vilnius does not need many stupid tourists who buy "matrioshkas" and it does not need to change in order to attract them, because of the fact that it'll loose its previous face. From various your comments I've got impression that you are conservative who does not like changes, any things which are new. You would like to live in well know, stable Vilnius, with constant face and atmosphere.
Well, that was my impression, sorry if it was wrong.
Actually there are no uglier buildings in Gediminas avenue than that ministry building. BrokenCloud mentioned that Vilniaus vartai is uglier. "Vilniaus vartai" - Vilnius gates project. From all comments of BrokenCloud it seems that he hates everything what is new - and he prefers everything what is old, no matter how ugly it is.
Wrong impression Edd, and I am sorry that you have made it based on my comments. I like new architecture and I don't think that ministry of indurstry is some sort of exemplary piece, however I prefer not to be blinded by the new boxes being build because in the few years, after all the "news" about them being built in the empty lots wear out, they will look just what they are - boxes. I believe that there's more to architecture than just a cube of glass.
Now to me there's old and then there's *old*, and that's what I really like. Commieblocks, whether housing or that miserable Ministry building, don't fall into the *old* category as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks for the explanation, Eddai! As you know, I have no idea what people are *saying* here ... I can only react to photos and take a wild guess every once in a while, which usually backfires as it did there with my comment to Vaidas about the Notovel.
I freely admit -- and you probably know this, too -- that I am a great admirer of [most] old buildings.
Well, about Novotel - you can always react negative towards that building when there is word "Novotel" mentioned. No matter what the real context is all about. It's never enough of all these bashings when we talk about that building.
About old buildings - commieblocks are also old, that's what I was talking about: BrokenCloud prefers commieblock of ministry over Vilnius gates because it is old and Vilnius gates is new. I don't agree with that at all.
Thanks for the explanation, Eddai! As you know, I have no idea what people are *saying* here ... I can only react to photos and take a wild guess every once in a while, which usually backfires as it did there with my comment to Vaidas about the Notovel.
I freely admit -- and you probably know this, too -- that I am a great admirer of [most] old buildings. However, I am at least making an *effort* to find positive things in the more recent buildings. (Now where's that angel smilie?)
Actually there are no uglier buildings in Gediminas avenue than that ministry building. BrokenCloud mentioned that Vilniaus vartai is uglier. "Vilniaus vartai" - Vilnius gates project. From all comments of BrokenCloud it seems that he hates everything what is new - and he prefers everything what is old, no matter how ugly it is.
It may well be true that there are even worse buildings than that dreary Ministry box lining Vilnius' wonderful pedestrian street, Broken Cloud, but it makes me sad to see them.
/ @Vaidas: sorry, I misunderstood. Now that you've written it in English I see that you say something about the ministerijos. It's just that the was right next to the word Novotel.
And of course that Ministry building is an abomination and and a disgrace. I hope it'll be gone some day soon.
Oh, common, its not so bad. There are worse buildings Gedimino prospekte. Even this Vilniaus Vartai building, if looking from Independence square, seems very similar.
/ @Vaidas: sorry, I misunderstood. Now that you've written it in English I see that you say something about the ministerijos. It's just that the was right next to the word Novotel.
And of course that Ministry building is an abomination and and a disgrace. I hope it'll be gone some day soon.
Actually, I was talking about the Ministry of economy building - the '70s highriser "sticking out" further down the avenue. IMO it's a lot more horrible even than Novotel
Aciu, Mantai, for the great pix of Gedimino prospektas up there!
The St. George, quite close to my hotel when I visited Vilnius in the summer of 2004, was still undergoing reconstruction. It looks absolutely spectacular!
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